Tirze for T2D specifically — metformin + tirze stack experiences
33 posts
T2D for 11 years, A1c had crept back to 7.2 on metformin 2000mg alone. Endo added tirze 3 months ago. A1c down to 6.1 at re-check. Weight came off as a bonus (14lb).
Curious about others running this combo — how long on stack, A1c trajectory, any dose adjustment to metformin? My endo wants to keep metformin for the long-term kidney benefits even if tirze is doing the main glucose work.
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32 posts
The metformin + tirze combo is one of the cleanest modern T2D stacks. Metformin for long-term all-cause mortality signal, tirze for glucose + weight + cardiovascular endpoints. Synergistic on glucose, non-overlapping on the ancillary benefits. Don't de-prescribe either unless you have a specific reason.
27 posts
Met 1500 + tirze 7.5 for 14 months. A1c 7.8 -> 5.9, fasting 158 -> 104, weight down 28lb. Endo left metformin alone for the reasons yours cited — cardioprotective / kidney-protective signal is independent of glucose control. Don't drop it just because glucose is fixed.
- Sermorelin · 300 mcg · pre-bed · sub-Q
- Ipamorelin · 200 mcg · pre-bed · sub-Q
31 posts
Running both + empagliflozin (SGLT2i). A1c 8.1 -> 5.4 in 9 months. My cardiologist is happy, my endo is happy, I'm happy. The triple combo is the modern T2D protocol in my view and I wish I'd been on it 5 years ago.
115 posts
Tirze as monotherapy for T2D is supported by SURPASS-1 data but most real-world use is as add-on to metformin. Combination has the best evidence base for long-term outcomes. The 'should I drop metformin' question almost always has the answer 'no' unless you're having GI issues from it.
33 posts
Thanks all. Keeping metformin. Planning to retest at 6 months and post an update. The A1c trajectory in 3 months already beat anything I saw in 11 years of metformin alone.
205 posts
Worth tracking fasting insulin and HOMA-IR too, not just A1c. A1c is average glucose but insulin dynamics tell you about the underlying driver. Seeing those two numbers normalize is the real win.
- CJC-1295 no DAC · 100 mcg · pre-bed · sub-Q
- Ipamorelin · 200 mcg · pre-bed · sub-Q
- BPC-157 · 500 mcg · 2x/day · sub-Q