DSIP — is it doing anything or am I fooling myself?
18 posts
Delta sleep-inducing peptide. Run it 100mcg SC pre-bed. Some nights I sleep like I've been hit with a tranquilizer dart, other nights it's indistinguishable from placebo.
I've been trying to figure out the variable. Doesn't seem to be dose, timing, caffeine cutoff, exercise that day. Maybe it's circadian phase? Maybe it's stress?
Anyone else have this on/off experience with DSIP? Or is it more reliable for you? And if it's reliable — what's your timing and context?
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36 posts
Epithalon is much more reliable for me as a sleep tool. DSIP is a coinflip. I've essentially stopped running DSIP outside of jet lag.
205 posts
The literature on DSIP is thin and the name is misleading — its delta-wave promotion in humans is poorly substantiated. The sedation you're feeling on good nights might be via a different mechanism than "inducing deeper sleep."
- CJC-1295 no DAC · 100 mcg · pre-bed · sub-Q
- Ipamorelin · 200 mcg · pre-bed · sub-Q
- BPC-157 · 500 mcg · 2x/day · sub-Q
115 posts
Clinical data on DSIP is stuck in the 80s. There's a reason no one kept developing it. I treat it as a possible placebo with occasional real sedation.
26 posts
For shift workers DSIP might be more useful than for normal circadian people — there's a niche use case of "I need to sleep at a weird time on short notice." For baseline sleep quality I don't think it competes with good sleep hygiene.
41 posts
My wife is a nurse on rotating shifts. DSIP plus a dark room plus 0.3mg melatonin is her only tool that works when her shift flips. Individual piece isn't the peptide, it's the whole ritual.
- Semax · 600 mcg · AM intranasal · intranasal
- Selank · 250 mcg · as needed · intranasal
22 posts
Low dose exogenous melatonin (0.3mg not 5mg) is underrated. The 5mg tablets people buy are 10-20x what's needed for chronobiotic effect.