Sleep stack — MOTS-c + epitalon + pre-bed GH sec, real or overkill

Run epitalon weeks 5-6 as planned, re-measure week 6-7. If deep/REM go up further or HRV climbs, attribute to epi. If flat, the GH sec is doing the work.

Week 4 gains are entirely the CJC/Ipa window. Epitalon wasn't started, MOTS-c systemic sleep effect is marginal. The deep sleep bump from Ipa pre-bed is the best-known sleep pharmacology in the stack.

MOTS-c's sleep effect in my data is modest and slow — 4+ weeks before any subjective shift. At week 4 you wouldn't expect much from MOTS-c alone.

GH sec pre-bed + sleep metrics is well-established. Epitalon sleep effect is supported by Russian literature but not well-replicated elsewhere. MOTS-c sleep is speculative. Your attribution order should follow the evidence weight.

Good. Will hold the CJC/Ipa doses constant and let the epitalon block isolate. Will report week 6 vs week 4.

You're doing this the right way. Isolate the variable (epi) by running it in a window and comparing. Most people would add everything at once and never learn what's doing what.

NAD+ 100mg Sub-Q 2hr pre-bed is another sleep-active compound I'd rotate in eventually. Deep sleep bumps in my data. Consider for a subsequent cycle.

The mitochondrial class (MOTS-c, humanin, NAD+) collectively seems to shift sleep architecture over months not weeks. Sleep is one of the downstream markers that moves last, in my experience.

Week 6 update for anyone following: deep 87min (up 3 from week 4), REM 118 (up 6), HRV 53 (up 2). Epitalon block is contributing but small relative to the CJC/Ipa baseline. Solid addition, not transformative.

CJC/Ipa pre-bed is gonna be the driver here, that's just known. The epi and MOTS-c are probably doing something but its gonna take months to really see the signal. You're running it right tho, at least you'll know what the GH secretagogue baseline is doing.