Caloric surplus debate while on GH stack
37 posts
Reading a lot of conflicting stuff. Some say you have to be in a surplus to see gains from a GH/IGF stack. Others say it partitions even in deficit. I've been trying to recomp at maintenance and I don't know if that's the right call.
Currently: 5-day-on 2-off ipa/CJC, decent but not great gains. Am I leaving meat on the table by not bulking?
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46 posts
Partitioning is real but it's not magic. You'll still gain faster in a 200-cal surplus than at true maintenance. Peptides tilt the ratio, they don't overturn thermodynamics.
205 posts
Context matters — how lean are you, how trained are you, how old. Lean-and-trained at 40 can recomp at maintenance. Untrained or already fluffy, you won't.
- CJC-1295 no DAC · 100 mcg · pre-bed · sub-Q
- Ipamorelin · 200 mcg · pre-bed · sub-Q
- BPC-157 · 500 mcg · 2x/day · sub-Q
31 posts
Protein at 1g/lb minimum, carbs around training, fat fills the rest. If you're not hitting those basics the stack is doing half the work it could.
31 posts
100-150 above maintenance, slow, patient. Bulking hard while on GH just gets you fluff and insulin resistance.
- BPC-157 · 500 mcg · 2x/day local to knee · sub-Q
- TB-500 · 5 mg · weekly loading · sub-Q
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45 posts
Re-DEXA at 8 weeks not just re-panel. Scale weight is noise on a small surplus.